
(Lindbergh) Éloignez les bureaux de la MLB du terrain. Avec les cartes de repérage et les appels en pirogue, les front-offices et les entraîneurs empiètent sur le jeu et nuisent à l’expérience du spectateur. Laissez les joueurs jouer.
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Par Knightbear49
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Comments are gonna be a bloodbath.
Crazy that Ben Lindbergh is the one to write this article.
Common Ben Lindbergh W.
Its been happening for Years now. Its only gonna get worse. Not exactly a new trend.
As a former college baseball coach, I’m gonna sit on the fence here. More and more catchers don’t call pitches through the college level and it’s bleeding into the minor/major leagues. Is it a skill catchers should learn? Sure, but no team is going to risk their future over it.
Also, the scout cards are genius and I don’t hate them at all.
I came in prepared to disagree but he mostly makes good points. I don’t think this stuff is really as transformative as he acts like, but I do agree that putting more mental burden on the players creates a more interesting game
Lol yeah man as a spectator in the stands I get really upset when I see the manager calling pitches from the dugout it really ruins the game for me, I hate it when coaches coach
It’s also very funny to me that after decades of people claiming that managers don’t actually do anything they’re finally doing actual in game coaching stuff and a ton of people hate it. I know those probably aren’t the same groups of people but it’s still funny
I genuinely do not understand the opposition to this. Does anyone who feels strongly about it mind explaining *why*?
I don’t personally see it any differently than football coaches calling plays through a headset, and that has never bothered me.
I don’t spend thousands to watch Judge mash. I want to see Cashman at the plate with Bob Gibson pitching.
As someone on bluesky noted, that first footnote is shots fired.
I have to imagine you feel pretty disposable as a pitcher at this point. You don’t call your own pitches, you’re basically told to throw your arm out, and no one cares about your longevity. I’m sure what that leads to is more faceless young guys throwing heat who come and go very quickly, and a dearth of real name brand stars. I can’t imagine over time that’s great as fans really crave narratives and individuals to root for.
The dude who wrote this article is following the well-worn path of every generation before him that slowly became oldheads without realizing it. Every innovation seems exciting and reasonable when you’re young and blasphemous and irrational when you’re old.
The only constant is change. The game (and the world) will continue to evolve; your only choice is whether or not to evolve with it.
How exactly does it harm the spectators experience? I get not liking it because you feel the players are having part of the game taken away form them, but when I sit down to watch a game how is it going to change anything?
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Yeah, if you’re paying me millions you can literally walk on the field and hand me a list of pitches you want thrown. I don’t gaf.
The more honest conversation is that scouting cards and coaches calling pitchers can stifle offense, and nobody wants that. Pitchers don’t need any more advantages.
What’s really harming the spectator experience is the fact that 20 of 30 teams might as well not even start the season because they are hardly trying to be competitive. That is way worse than anything that could be happening with analytics.
Watching the A’s call pitches from the dugout regularly through the early Moneyball years, I guess I never realized how rare it was.