Alors que l’équipe américaine attend son sort à la World Baseball Classic, elle n’aurait jamais dû en arriver là
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Par MysteriousEdge5643
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Alors que l’équipe américaine attend son sort à la World Baseball Classic, elle n’aurait jamais dû en arriver là
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Par MysteriousEdge5643
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Ken Rosenthal failed to mention that he had to remind deRosa who was in his own bullpen too.
That’s what happens when you have a tv personality in a position of power
lol this is so ridiculous. i think italy will beat mexico but what if they intentionally lose 😆?
>Still, did the relaxed atmosphere provide too much of a sigh of relief, considering Team USA needed to beat Italy to ensure its place in the knockout round?
>“Oh, not at all. Not at all,” said U.S. captain Aaron Judge, who struck out representing the potential tying run to end the game. “Everyone on this team has been enjoying this experience. You’re getting a chance to have these guys all in one clubhouse, share stories, share at-bats, share any information to make each other better.
>“That’s kind of what we were doing. We had a win, and guys were just hanging out a little bit. But we were focused on what we had to do (Tuesday night). Italy is a great team. They definitely showed it today. But whatever happened yesterday has nothing to do with what happened today.”
Embarrassing for Aaron Judge to go out and lie like that. They have zero integrity, just own up to the mistake. “Yeah we massively fucked up, we know we disappointed the fans, but we’re serious about making this right and we just hope we get the chance.” Sick of all of them.
Only in America would you have a TV personality as the manager of Team USA.
I genuinely wonder how awful the clubhouse vibe is today, if the players are even there and aren’t mentally back at spring camp already
I’ve got two kinda conflicting thoughts
1) USA more than deserves to get eliminated for not going all out VS Italy
2) it is kinda crazy how you can not make the final bracket by going 3-1 and the game you lost being by 2 runs
😂 😂 😂
The roster still isn’t best possible (unc like Goldy over Kurtz/Busch) but at the end of the day this is baseball. A team with a lot of major league players can still take a game. Brazil and England are the teams that would have been an utter embarrassment to lose to
I didn’t think coming into this that I’d be rooting for Mexico and Italy to eliminate the USA because at least they look alive. And have someone on the team who can read and count.
Are people intentionally being dense with the « TV personality » thing? He played in the majors for 16 years, it’s not like they hired Matt Vasgersion.
Kind of reminds of USA basketball in 2004 – didn’t take it serious, the rest of the world had caught up and they got sent home. Then they adjusted how they pick teams and prepare and haven’t not gotten gold since.
USA baseball needs to do the same thing. Take it monumentally seriously, and anyone who isn’t on board can stay home cough cough Harper cough cough
Inept leadership is a core American value
1. They didn’t have close to the best roster that they could
2. They don’t have a manager, a random baseball fan would have done a better job than DeRosa
3. They sat their best players in a must win game
4. The team simply doesn’t care, they were out partying after the Mexico win.
“You said you weren’t going to fact check”
> HOUSTON — Can you believe we’re talking about all this?
>About whether Team USA manager Mark DeRosa misspoke when he said on MLB Network early Tuesday that “our ticket’s punched to the quarterfinals.”
>About whether DeRosa was wrong to bench Bryce Harper, Alex Bregman and Brice Turang in a game that, yes, Team USA indeed needed to win.
>And last but certainly not least, about how the greatest U.S. team ever assembled will avoid elimination in the World Baseball Classic only if Italy beats Mexico on Wednesday night, or if Mexico scores five or more runs.
>Really? We’re calculating the WBC’s run-quotient formula? We’re wondering if Harper and Kyle Schwarber will give their Philadelphia Phillies teammate, right-hander Aaron Nola, a pep talk before he starts for Italy against Mexico? We’re preparing to possibly say goodbye to a U.S. team in a tournament set up in their favor, requiring them to beat either powerful Japan or the potent Dominican Republic to win the title, but not both?
>Incredibly, the answers to each of those questions is yes.
Team USA’s 8-6 loss to Italy after falling behind 8-0 on Tuesday night might become only a footnote if those espresso-chugging Italians prevail over Mexico, or if the run-quotient gods smile on DeRosa and company. But my goodness, it never should have come to this.
>Even if you believe DeRosa when he says he knew “100 percent” that his team had not advanced after starting pool play 3-0, his mistaken comment, his adjusted lineup against Italy and even the team’s extended bonding session Monday night after its emotional win over Mexico raised a series of questions.
>Give Italy credit. For issuing only one walk to a U.S. team that drew 17 in its opening victory over Brazil. For scoring eight runs even though its top five hitters went 0 for 22. For hitting three homers, playing with verve and energy, and using six major-league relievers to survive the U.S. comeback after veteran right-hander Michael Lorenzen pitched 4 2/3 scoreless innings.
>But with all due respect, none of that should have happened.
>In a different world, we would be celebrating Team USA for its impromptu clubhouse gathering after beating Mexico. The group chat, held in person rather than virtually, lasted nearly two hours, delaying the departures of the team buses. Nearly all of the players took part, as did DeRosa and his coaches.
>Players sat with their chairs facing the center of the room, some with their shirts off. They chopped it up, shared stories. It was a scene from baseball’s not-so-distant past, when players lingered at the park after the last pitch. And though the fun didn’t end until around 1 a.m. CT, the game against Italy wasn’t until 8 p.m.
> Team USA tiebreakers and what’s at stake in WBC pool play finale
>In a showdown between the Dominican Republic and Venezuela, the loser will face the defending champions, Samurai Japan.
>Still, did the relaxed atmosphere provide too much of a sigh of relief, considering Team USA needed to beat Italy to ensure its place in the knockout round?
>“Oh, not at all. Not at all,” said U.S. captain Aaron Judge, who struck out representing the potential tying run to end the game.
>“Everyone on this team has been enjoying this experience. You’re getting a chance to have these guys all in one clubhouse, share stories, share at-bats, share any information to make each other better.
>“That’s kind of what we were doing. We had a win, and guys were just hanging out a little bit. But we were focused on what we had to do (Tuesday night). Italy is a great team. They definitely showed it today. But whatever happened yesterday has nothing to do with what happened today.”
>DeRosa said much the same, but he had a 9:45 a.m. appearance on MLB Network’s “Hot Stove” show, and that is when he made his erroneous “our ticket’s punched” claim. He said he knew otherwise, and so did the players. But he wasn’t made aware of his stumble until he arrived at Daikin Park later in the day.
>His lineup was more fodder for debate.
DeRosa sat Harper for Paul Goldschmidt, Bregman for Gunnar Henderson and Turang for Ernie Clement. Part of DeRosa’s thinking was that he wanted to get Goldschmidt and Clement in a rhythm so they would be ready for important pinch-hit at-bats later in the tournament. But now those at-bats might never come.
>Team USA was shut out for the first five innings. The results of DeRosa’s lineup changes were mixed.
>Pete Crow-Armstrong hit two home runs in place of Byron Buxton. Goldschmidt went 1 for 3 with a run scored. Henderson hit a home run, but also struck out three times. Clement went 0 for 2 before getting replaced by Turang, who went 1 for 2 with a double. And Harper, pinch-hitting for Goldschmidt with two on and two out in the eighth, flied out.
>“I get it with the lineup but, the guys that were in there hit,” DeRosa said.
>If anything, DeRosa second-guessed himself more for his pitching decisions. He wondered whether he should have stayed with Nolan McLean for a hitter or two more in the fourth, after the rookie allowed three runs in three innings. He questioned whether he should have replaced McLean with reliever Brad Keller rather than swingman Ryan Yarbrough, who started his outing by walking Kyle Teel and allowing a two-run homer by Jac Caglianone
>Clayton “break glass in case of emergency” Kershaw warmed in the eighth because DeRosa feared Italy might expand its lead beyond 8-4 after it loaded the bases against David Bednar with one out. Bednar, working on a 25-pitch limit, escaped the jam with 24. Otherwise, the formula for a three-team tiebreaker — lowest quotient of fewest runs allowed divided by the number of defensive outs — would have been even more problematic for Team USA.
>Again, why are we even talking about this?
>Two days before facing Team USA, Lorenzen said of the U.S. lineup, “I think they’re going to try to embarrass me.” He later added, “Even if I embarrass myself, it’s a learning opportunity … a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity going against a lineup like that.”
>Lorenzen seized the opportunity. He wasn’t the one embarrassed.