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Je regardais l’arrière du Topps Dave Henderson de 1987. À quoi fait référence la section « À cette date » ?


J’ai vu cette carte et je me demandais ce que signifiait cette anecdote amusante. Je pensais que cela signifiait peut-être qu’il avait 4 AB en une manche ou quelque chose comme ça. J’ai regardé le score de ce match et il n’avait que deux AB. Est-ce que ce vieil argot de baseball n’est plus utilisé, ou s’agit-il d’une sorte de faute de frappe/de mauvaises données ?

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN196906060.shtml


Par collectaBK7

16 Comments

  1. madcaplaughs30

    I think it means he got 4 outs in an inning, like if a runner reaches on a dropped third strike

  2. lostroadrunner22

    They kept asking him to pitch and he kept saying ‘No, thank you’

  3. Disused_Yeti

    he had 3 assists and a putout in the game, maybe they were all in that one inning

  4. In the top of the 6th inning, he got an assist on every out. I’m not sure what the 4th « chance » was.

  5. Top 6th – the FC with Helms out at home seems like it was a pickle so he touched the ball twice.

  6. themanwiththeplan446

    Chances are assists+putouts+errors

  7. Check the play by play for the top of the 6th inning. He was involved in all three outs, two were basic force plays and then also involved in two parts of this play :

    Fielder’s Choice P; T. Helms out at Hm/P-C-3B-P; C. Ruiz to 2B; P. Rose to 1B

  8. jasperplumpton

    I assume they’re referring to the top of the 6th in that game but still don’t really get the “4 chances” thing. Looks like he came in midway through the inning with 0 outs and runners on 1st and 2nd and did proceed to get 3 straight outs in the field on groundouts/FCs but I don’t know where the 4th one is coming from

  9. letskeepitcleanfolks

    The card is referring to fielding chances, which are the total of assist, putouts, and errors, though I’ve never heard the phrase « accepting » a chance.

    The inning in question was the 6th. First Regan got an assist by fielding a grounder and throwing out the runner going to second. The final out was similar, fielding a grounder and throwing out the batter at first.

    In between, there was a rundown in which Regan fielded the ball, went home with it, and then joined the rundown. He was the one to put the tag on, so on this play he got both an assist and a putout.

  10. MysteryMeatballer

    A [chance](https://www.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/total-chances) is an opportunity to field the ball with the possibility of making an out. This can be either catching a ball in the air to make an out (a putout), receiving the ball to make an out (like catching it at first for a force-out, which is another type of putout) or throwing it to make an out (an assist).

    ~~However, I genuinely think the card is wrong. Regan faced 5 batters that game. Here are the results:~~

    1. ~~Flyball to left field. Out. (end of 8th inning)~~
    2. ~~Single to RF~~
    3. ~~Single to LF~~
    4. ~~Single to LF~~
    5. ~~Single to CF~~

    ~~Regan is then (mercifully) removed from the game. I don’t see how any of those constitute chances unless Regan was sprinting into the outfield to try to make a play on those hits to the outfield.~~

    Edit: I was reading the wrong game. He got the 4 chances in the top of the 6th. Note he gets credit for two chances in the rundown between home and third on the second play.

    t6 CIN Chico Ruiz vs. Phil Regan
    Groundout: P-SS/Forceout at 2B; T. Helms to 3B; C. Ruiz to 1B

    t6 CIN Pete Rose vs. Phil Regan
    Fielder’s Choice P; T. Helms out at Hm/P-C-3B-P; C. Ruiz to 2B; P. Rose to 1B

    t6 CIN Bobby Tolan vs. Phil Regan
    Groundout: P-1B

  11. LacklusteHero

    An even better story about Phil Regan, IMO: during a game in August of 1968, Phil’s stuff was so nasty that the home plate umpire called *fourteen* illegal pitches on Regan, citing the excessive movement as a sure sign of foreign substances.

    No substances were ever found on the ball, and he was later absolved by NL President Warren Giles, but the label of « cheater » followed him for the rest of his career.

  12. The_Only_Abe

    The pitcher, Phil Regan, probably struck out 2 batters then made an error on a batted ball or threw a wild pitch that the batter was struck out on and then struck out the last batter. Seems weird the fun fact doesn’t reference Dave Henderson

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